Nathan Natas

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  84 Lumber Commercial

  by azor in

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  just saw this commercial and was very impressed.

  hoping more companies start doing the same.

  most of us are immigrants.

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  Nathan Natas

  Azor, my ancestors came to this country in full compliance with the immigration laws that applied at the time of their arrival, and they came because they were in full agreement with the principles of the US Constitution and the other laws of the United States of America.

  You are no doubt familiar with the saying "mi casa es su casa." is that EVER meant literally? If I break into your home, does that make me a member of your family?

  You may be unaware of the purpose of the organization called "la Raza" and the goals of the Reconquista Movement, but I am.

  It speaks volumes that you find an informed opponent "truly disgusting." Surely you would prefer that EVERYONE was on a mental siesta, aided by some of your illegal Mexican herbal imports.
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  Scientology Superbowl Ad

  by azor in

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  simply disgusted with that double standard by our system at times.

  cutting ads that question trumps bigoted wall, yet allowing a cult ad in.

  wtf..

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  Nathan Natas

  I'm a bigot if I don't support criminals? OK, put me down as bigot.
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  I am giving everyone on the board...

  by The Rebel in

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  a new commadment to the posting guidelines.

  we must love one another.. if i read the posting guidelines and saw the lurking presence of that new commadment " we must love one another" i would feel very uneasy about registering.

  it sounds more like a threat than an expression of love.

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  Nathan Natas

  The Rebel said, " I think if the posting guidelines COMMANDMED [sic] us to love each other it would be a little optimistic, arrogant and presumptuous."

  ...but not if you do it?

  OK, just wanted to get clear on that.
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  84 Lumber Commercial

  by azor in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just saw this commercial and was very impressed.

  hoping more companies start doing the same.

  most of us are immigrants.

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  Nathan Natas

  Most of us were NOT criminals, and most of us were NOT dedicated to the overthrow of the US government and the destruction of America.
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  My families shunning has gone to a whole new level

  by pale.emperor in

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  8 months df'd.

  loving a life of freedom.

  however, my family are all shunning me.

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  Nathan Natas

  There comes a point when a person has to decide if they value themselves enough to act in their own self-defense. I understand your pain and how much you regret having to take a stand, but you are doing the right thing.

  There are people here who will urge you to continue being a doormat. They are fools.
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  What if I'm attracted to the association of xJW's but not interested in JW topics?

  by IveBeenBitten in

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  what if i'm attracted to the association of xjw's but not interested in jw topics?.

  i'm interested in talking with people that are xjw's but i'm not interested in talking about jw stuff.

  maybe sometimes, but is there a place to go where "jehovah's witnesses" don't have a topic?.

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  Nathan Natas

  You can send PMs to any member of the board with whom you feel an affinity, and if any given topic doesn't interest you, you are not obligated to read them.

  Good luck! Have fun!
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  What finally helped you to peek behind the curtain

  by UnshackleTheChains in

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  2. experiences

  i'm interested in finding out what it was that finally enabled you to open your eyes to the real truth of watchtower.

  what started me thinking, was the societys very own book...' 'revelation..it's grand climax at hand'.

  i found that book farcicle.

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  Nathan Natas

  WingCommander challenged, "Q for Nathan Natas: Before you left your congregation, did you clue in that young sister with 2 young children? I sure hope so!"

  That marriage took place years after I left NYC. Is that OK with you?

  Please keep me fully informed of any other standards you might set for me.
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  New here..help greatly appreciated

  by Confusedandangry in

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  hi everyone i don't even know where to begin.

  i recently saw leah remini's series on scientology thanks to my husband (semi-active jw) and i felt like my eyes were being opened for the 1st time in my adult life.

  i felt shaken almost sick to my stomach with each episode i watched.

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  Nathan Natas

  Smiddy is correct, "Captives Of A Concept" is an excellent book.
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  Ex wife getting a heart operation

  by greenhornet in

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  2. medical

  my kids mother is getting a new heart valve.

  there upset because she is making sure no blood is to be used and her jw cronies will be with her making it hard for my kids even to visit her in the hospital.

  can jws get a pigs heart valve now and is her request by having no blood make this procedure difficult for the surgin for a successful operation?.

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  Nathan Natas

  About ten years ago I had open-heart surgery - repair of mitral valve prolapse. In my case my own valve was left in - reinforced with a plastic ring.

  I made sure my doctors knew that I was PERFECTLY WILLING to receive blood if it was necessary - in fact I had a couple pints of my own blood collected for the occasion so I wouldn't have to worry about getting blood from someone with HIV, Hep-C, or who-knows-what?

  Turns out NOT A SINGLE DROP OF BLOOD WAS USED at any time before, during or after my operation. The procedures and efficiencies have progressed tremendously in the past 60 years, it is the WTB&TS that is standing still.
  
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  How does the Preaching Work get done Under a Ban?

  by Quarterback in

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  the year book tells us that some activity in fs is being performed in countries that are banned, is this accurate?

  how on earth is it accomplished?

  do anyone have any experience?.

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  Nathan Natas

  Poorly, just as when not under a ban.